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Murchie

Neymar The £200 Million Player

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Murchie    574

A £200 million transfer fee and reported wages of anything between £500,000 - 700,000 a week. Absolutely ridiculous amounts of money, I'm sure Neymars father will be delighted though.

 

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Rob Jones    738

The only good thing is they do pay lots of tax and that improves thing for the have nots

We saw what the impact Pogba made last year to Man Utd LOL

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Parky    2,019
2 hours ago, Rob Jones said:

The only good thing is they do pay lots of tax and that improves thing for the have nots

We saw what the impact Pogba made last year to Man Utd LOL

Pogba and Ozil are the worst EPL players without the ball. ..

Kante player of the year twice 😂 He runs a long way and tackles..

Not decrying him but player of the year twice for trying hard.. says it all..

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dcfc2007    975

The money in football is absolutely insane. I don't really pay much attention to it anymore. PSG have a quality player who is very marketable. I'm not surprised that Neymar left the biggest club in the world, Brazilian footballers are mercanaries.

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Parky    2,019
11 minutes ago, davethailand said:

Disgusting waste of money.

Stop winding John42 the sender up 😂😂

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flog    188

It's become obscene the money. And people whinge about bankers. What about the agents taking their cut


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dcfc2007    975
1 hour ago, flog said:

It's become obscene the money. And people whinge about bankers. What about the agents taking their cut


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Neymars da is his agent and he has earned more money than Messi this year. Let that sink in. There is no loyalty in football anymore.

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Parky    2,019
2 hours ago, flog said:

It's become obscene the money. And people whinge about bankers. What about the agents taking their cut


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And greedy landlords upping rents 😂Pure scum 

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Parky    2,019
48 minutes ago, dcfc2007 said:

Neymars da is his agent and he has earned more money than Messi this year. Let that sink in. There is no loyalty in football anymore.

The days of decency , loyalty and honesty are gone , we are left with lying , selfish filth and scum...

But enough about the odd BM 😂🤣

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firth1974    163
3 hours ago, dcfc2007 said:

Neymars da is his agent and he has earned more money than Messi this year. Let that sink in. There is no loyalty in football anymore.

His dad received a £33,000,000 bonus when his son signed for Barcelona.

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QATAR is gearing up  for 2022 and looking for poster-boys, maybe they pulled the trigger too early, 5 years is a long time in football...

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Murchie    574
5 hours ago, firth1974 said:

His dad received a £33,000,000 bonus when his son signed for Barcelona.

Reports suggesting he will make £62 million out of this transfer. 

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Rob Jones    738
13 hours ago, dcfc2007 said:

Neymars da is his agent and he has earned more money than Messi this year. Let that sink in. There is no loyalty in football anymore.

You can't blame them though, we would all do it given then chance. 

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Andrew19    79

If the money is on the table why would he leave it there? 

Neymar has been doing what was the best for him and getting the highest amount of money possible without jeopardising his career. When he was in Santos he arranged to stay there for another year and he would get a huge cut out of the transfer money. He's the poster boy for Nike and is marketing himself in the best possible way. When he got the transfer to Barcelona he got a better contract a year and a half after signing for them, on par on what Messi was earning. 

Regarding his ability, he's not at the same level as Messi or Suarez who carried Barcelona on their own for the past 4 seasons while he was the weakest link of the 3 (and all of them were left down by their midfielders last year). The only time he really played consistently well was when Messi was injured for 2 months and took on Messi's role pretty much. There is a problem though. He will never be the No1 star in Barcelona as long as Messi is still kicking a football. He also wants to play in a free role, like when he's playing with Brasil, something that wasn't going to happen in Barcelona.

The fact that he would always be under Messi's shadow was made pretty clear when Barcelona played against PSG last year. He pretty much carried Barcelona on his own on that game, scoring 2 goals and providing the assist for the 6th goal. Yet the next day's papers had Messi on their front page celebrating instead of him. 

PSG had problems in the end of the season. Verratti wanted to leave PSG and join Barcelona, because he pretty much told them that he had won everything he could win there. The PSG board told him, you're staying here, because we're going to match your ambition and try to win the Champions League. Barcelona were pretty much trying to bully them into a transfer, so they turned the tables and got one of their most prized assets. Now Neymar might not be the best player in the world, but he's probably the best player that was available for transfer (my personal opinion is that Eden Hazard would have been a better option, but he's not as marketable as Neymar). 

By the way this move was funded (like the whole PSG project) with Qatari money. This move is a coup for them and is a distraction from the problems they face now, as their country is blockaded by the rest of the Arab world.  

22 hours ago, flog said:

It's become obscene the money. And people whinge about bankers. What about the agents taking their cut

There's a lot of money around football it's best if players get it, than some suit who has never played football in his life.

In the end of the day it was about time that the highest paid player in the world was someone playing in the Champions League and not some guy plying his trade in China. 

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mulphy    1,060
23 minutes ago, Andrew19 said:

If the money is on the table why would he leave it there? 

Neymar has been doing what was the best for him and getting the highest amount of money possible without jeopardising his career. When he was in Santos he arranged to stay there for another year and he would get a huge cut out of the transfer money. He's the poster boy for Nike and is marketing himself in the best possible way. When he got the transfer to Barcelona he got a better contract a year and a half after signing for them, on par on what Messi was earning. 

Regarding his ability, he's not at the same level as Messi or Suarez who carried Barcelona on their own for the past 4 seasons while he was the weakest link of the 3 (and all of them were left down by their midfielders last year). The only time he really played consistently well was when Messi was injured for 2 months and took on Messi's role pretty much. There is a problem though. He will never be the No1 star in Barcelona as long as Messi is still kicking a football. He also wants to play in a free role, like when he's playing with Brasil, something that wasn't going to happen in Barcelona.

The fact that he would always be under Messi's shadow was made pretty clear when Barcelona played against PSG last year. He pretty much carried Barcelona on his own on that game, scoring 2 goals and providing the assist for the 6th goal. Yet the next day's papers had Messi on their front page celebrating instead of him. 

PSG had problems in the end of the season. Verratti wanted to leave PSG and join Barcelona, because he pretty much told them that he had won everything he could win there. The PSG board told him, you're staying here, because we're going to match your ambition and try to win the Champions League. Barcelona were pretty much trying to bully them into a transfer, so they turned the tables and got one of their most prized assets. Now Neymar might not be the best player in the world, but he's probably the best player that was available for transfer (my personal opinion is that Eden Hazard would have been a better option, but he's not as marketable as Neymar). 

By the way this move was funded (like the whole PSG project) with Qatari money. This move is a coup for them and is a distraction from the problems they face now, as their country is blockaded by the rest of the Arab world.  

There's a lot of money around football it's best if players get it, than some suit who has never played football in his life.

In the end of the day it was about time that the highest paid player in the world was someone playing in the Champions League and not some guy plying his trade in China. 

the people making money out of football should be the investors .

players are just employees .

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Andrew19    79
2 hours ago, mulphy said:

the people making money out of football should be the investors .

players are just employees .

The players aren't employees like the guy who collects the kits or cleans the offices. It's an entertainment industry so they're the product as well. 

Some investors are making money out of football, yet it seems that most investors aren't interested in making money directly out of football. 

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mulphy    1,060
12 hours ago, Andrew19 said:

The players aren't employees like the guy who collects the kits or cleans the offices. It's an entertainment industry so they're the product as well. 

Some investors are making money out of football, yet it seems that most investors aren't interested in making money directly out of football. 

the game is lost to the public as a result of these overpaid footballers playing a game .

yes thats right its just a game .

they maybe part of entertainment but they get paid maybe 100 times what they are worth .

 

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Parky    2,019
13 hours ago, Andrew19 said:

The players aren't employees like the guy who collects the kits or cleans the offices. It's an entertainment industry so they're the product as well. 

Some investors are making money out of football, yet it seems that most investors aren't interested in making money directly out of football. 

In the end they all make money , the clubs increase in value its a global game and as had been said its not a game for working  classes any more, I remember turning  up at Highbury late 70s and 80s paying on door, same as Chelsea , QPR, Spurs  all clubs... was the price  of a beer in 70s..

Leeds is circa £42 a game ... madness, a friend  of mines son in law is a reserve  team player at a premier club he earns £12000 a week..... 

I would not feel right paying £60 for a game simple as that ...Add in as I said in anothiorpost Kante player of the year twice , respect to the lad he works hard but players with much greater ability  dont seem to try , add in the "Park the bus " the product  is almost dishonest at the highest level, European Cup is even worse... A money making scam , then ensure the final is who they want from last 4...stinks..

The fundamentals of a 'Game " is its fair.... Highly skilled players not trying ? who can blame them  , someone gives you 20 million in a few years it may change your work ethic, they say Rory McIlroy has lost interest  in golf... just the 200 million,,, whether  true who knows..

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Andrew19    79
4 hours ago, mulphy said:

the game is lost to the public as a result of these overpaid footballers playing a game .

yes thats right its just a game .

they maybe part of entertainment but they get paid maybe 100 times what they are worth .

The game is lost to the public... Really do you have any grip with reality? The game is more popular than ever, fans are watching it in record numbers. 

Are they getting paid 100 times what they are worth? Well, they wouldn't be paid that much if they weren't worth it, unless you think club owners are mugs who are paying their "employees" 100 times what they are worth.

3 hours ago, Parky said:

In the end they all make money , the clubs increase in value its a global game and as had been said its not a game for working  classes any more, I remember turning  up at Highbury late 70s and 80s paying on door, same as Chelsea , QPR, Spurs  all clubs... was the price  of a beer in 70s..

Leeds is circa £42 a game ... madness, a friend  of mines son in law is a reserve  team player at a premier club he earns £12000 a week..... 

I would not feel right paying £60 for a game simple as that ...Add in as I said in anothiorpost Kante player of the year twice , respect to the lad he works hard but players with much greater ability  dont seem to try , add in the "Park the bus " the product  is almost dishonest at the highest level, European Cup is even worse... A money making scam , then ensure the final is who they want from last 4...stinks..

The fundamentals of a 'Game " is its fair.... Highly skilled players not trying ? who can blame them  , someone gives you 20 million in a few years it may change your work ethic, they say Rory McIlroy has lost interest  in golf... just the 200 million,,, whether  true who knows..

You don't have to pay 60 pounds for a game. If you choose to do so, it's your decision. In the end of the day if you can't afford or don't want to spend the money to buy a Ferrari nobody's holding a gun on your head to buy one. Not to mention that you won't be going on a stand with the guy behind you pissing on your back nowadays like you did back then.

Obviously the laws of supply and demand are at work here, there's not enough tickets to meet demand, so ticket prices have gone up. 

Regarding money and players performance, well Kante is a multimillionaire, so is Ronaldo they're still trying their best in every game. Some guys won't bother too much since they'll still get paid, happened in every job last time I checked.  

Like Mourinho said a player like Neymar is cheap when the run of the mill EPL player costs some 50 million pounds. 

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Parky    2,019
52 minutes ago, Andrew19 said:

The game is lost to the public... Really do you have any grip with reality? The game is more popular than ever, fans are watching it in record numbers. 

Are they getting paid 100 times what they are worth? Well, they wouldn't be paid that much if they weren't worth it, unless you think club owners are mugs who are paying their "employees" 100 times what they are worth.

You don't have to pay 60 pounds for a game. If you choose to do so, it's your decision. In the end of the day if you can't afford or don't want to spend the money to buy a Ferrari nobody's holding a gun on your head to buy one. Not to mention that you won't be going on a stand with the guy behind you pissing on your back nowadays like you did back then.

Obviously the laws of supply and demand are at work here, there's not enough tickets to meet demand, so ticket prices have gone up. 

Regarding money and players performance, well Kante is a multimillionaire, so is Ronaldo they're still trying their best in every game. Some guys won't bother too much since they'll still get paid, happened in every job last time I checked.  

Like Mourinho said a player like Neymar is cheap when the run of the mill EPL player costs some 50 million pounds. 

The point being the game is been taken away from the working people, Roy Keane called  it "Prawn Sandwich Brigade "  No one ever pissed down my back, they may have yours mate.... But not me be assured of that :laugh:

It sounds as if you have never been to a game ,  Winston Bogarde was a pioneer  ... 

The likes of Lampard and Gerrard hanging round 2 years past their date,  can't blame the players ... but the muggy fans eat it up... That Kante wins player of the year just evidences what cheats many of the more talented  players  are...

No average player costs 50 million pounds...

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mulphy    1,060
3 hours ago, Andrew19 said:

The game is lost to the public... Really do you have any grip with reality? The game is more popular than ever, fans are watching it in record numbers. 

Are they getting paid 100 times what they are worth? Well, they wouldn't be paid that much if they weren't worth it, unless you think club owners are mugs who are paying their "employees" 100 times what they are worth.

You don't have to pay 60 pounds for a game. If you choose to do so, it's your decision. In the end of the day if you can't afford or don't want to spend the money to buy a Ferrari nobody's holding a gun on your head to buy one. Not to mention that you won't be going on a stand with the guy behind you pissing on your back nowadays like you did back then.

Obviously the laws of supply and demand are at work here, there's not enough tickets to meet demand, so ticket prices have gone up. 

Regarding money and players performance, well Kante is a multimillionaire, so is Ronaldo they're still trying their best in every game. Some guys won't bother too much since they'll still get paid, happened in every job last time I checked.  

Like Mourinho said a player like Neymar is cheap when the run of the mill EPL player costs some 50 million pounds. 

me losing touch with reality ?

are you kidding about the game being more popular with the public than ever .

lets imagine you are a chelsea fan , you have 2 kids , adult tickets between 120 pounds a game and 450 pounds a game each ticket .

they may have 7 games a month average 4 a month at home .

you may want to go to the 3 or 4 games away from home each month .

if not you will surely want sky tv to see the match .

you ll need travel , money , you ll need food money and you ll need booze money .

show me the change out of 4 or 5000 pounds a month , then show me how many ordinary working guys earn 5000 pounds a month never mind have 5000 pounds a month disposable income .

of course its out of the working mans reach these days .

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Andrew19    79
13 hours ago, mulphy said:

me losing touch with reality ?

are you kidding about the game being more popular with the public than ever .

lets imagine you are a chelsea fan , you have 2 kids , adult tickets between 120 pounds a game and 450 pounds a game each ticket .

they may have 7 games a month average 4 a month at home .

you may want to go to the 3 or 4 games away from home each month .

if not you will surely want sky tv to see the match .

you ll need travel , money , you ll need food money and you ll need booze money .

show me the change out of 4 or 5000 pounds a month , then show me how many ordinary working guys earn 5000 pounds a month never mind have 5000 pounds a month disposable income .

of course its out of the working mans reach these days .

Well Chelsea used to play in front of 10000 fans 35 years ago. Nowadays pretty much every game is sold out. 35 years ago no games were played on TV, nowadays millions watch the games on TV or through the internet. 

Sure you might not be able to afford going to the ground but this doesn't mean that you don't get to see a lot more football than you used to. 

By the way last time I checked you were a Celtic fan. You could have bought a season ticket and it would have been less than 1000 baht per game. Or you could get a Thai hooker instead and you probably did that.

15 hours ago, Parky said:

The point being the game is been taken away from the working people, Roy Keane called  it "Prawn Sandwich Brigade "  No one ever pissed down my back, they may have yours mate.... But not me be assured of that :laugh:

It sounds as if you have never been to a game ,  Winston Bogarde was a pioneer  ... 

The likes of Lampard and Gerrard hanging round 2 years past their date,  can't blame the players ... but the muggy fans eat it up... That Kante wins player of the year just evidences what cheats many of the more talented  players  are...

No average player costs 50 million pounds...

Have been to plenty of games, well only been to an EPL game once, but that being said I'm not living in the UK. Have been to 2 Champions League finals as well but only one involved an English team :laugh:

Working class people might not be able to afford watching Arsenal but can afford to watch AFC Hayes. 

Players keep on playing for as long their teams keep them. If the teams don't want to keep them playing it's the bench or the door for them. John Terry was on the bench and then shown the door. 

Kante won the player of the year because fans understand his contribution to the team. In years past it would only be the guys who scored goals that got all the plaudits. The Arsenal team failed to challenge the EPL title when Patrick Vieira left the team, yet the guy who was considered to be their legend was Thierry Henry who scored the goals. 

I guess 35 years ago people would say that no average player costs one million pounds. Prices have gone up. 

 

 

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mulphy    1,060
43 minutes ago, Andrew19 said:

Well Chelsea used to play in front of 10000 fans 35 years ago. Nowadays pretty much every game is sold out. 35 years ago no games were played on TV, nowadays millions watch the games on TV or through the internet. 

Sure you might not be able to afford going to the ground but this doesn't mean that you don't get to see a lot more football than you used to. 

By the way last time I checked you were a Celtic fan. You could have bought a season ticket and it would have been less than 1000 baht per game. Or you could get a Thai hooker instead and you probably did that.

Have been to plenty of games, well only been to an EPL game once, but that being said I'm not living in the UK. Have been to 2 Champions League finals as well but only one involved an English team :laugh:

Working class people might not be able to afford watching Arsenal but can afford to watch AFC Hayes. 

Players keep on playing for as long their teams keep them. If the teams don't want to keep them playing it's the bench or the door for them. John Terry was on the bench and then shown the door. 

Kante won the player of the year because fans understand his contribution to the team. In years past it would only be the guys who scored goals that got all the plaudits. The Arsenal team failed to challenge the EPL title when Patrick Vieira left the team, yet the guy who was considered to be their legend was Thierry Henry who scored the goals. 

I guess 35 years ago people would say that no average player costs one million pounds. Prices have gone up. 

 

 

its 2000 pounds for a flight , hotel , food , booze and a car rental each weekend and each midweek that puts me off mate .

not the season ticket .

but i dont think ive got a spare 150,000 pounds a year to go to every celtic match each season , though i wish i did and i wish i could .

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Andrew19    79
1 hour ago, mulphy said:

its 2000 pounds for a flight , hotel , food , booze and a car rental each weekend and each midweek that puts me off mate .

not the season ticket .

but i dont think ive got a spare 150,000 pounds a year to go to every celtic match each season , though i wish i did and i wish i could .

Well it's your choice to be living in Thailand and watching Celtic games on the screen. 

But you're one of the millions of Celtic fans around the world who wouldn't have been able to watch any Celtic games in the past. Yet you claim that "the game is lost to the public". 

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